Comments on: Deep Church: Two poles and a middle ground of the Emerging Church http://jasonclark.ws/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&seed=http%3A%2F%2Fjasonclark.ws%2F2007%2F01%2F15%2Fdeep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church%2F&seed_title=Deep+Church%3A++Two+poles+and+a+middle+ground+of+the+Emerging%26%23160%3BChurch Trying to make safe spaces for diverse and healthy conversations about church. Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:00:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Adam http://jasonclark.ws/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&seed=http%3A%2F%2Fjasonclark.ws%2F2007%2F01%2F15%2Fdeep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church%2F&seed_title=Deep+Church%3A++Two+poles+and+a+middle+ground+of+the+Emerging%26%23160%3BChurch/comment-page-1/#comment-8234 Adam Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:02:36 +0000 http://www.jasonclark.ws/2007/01/15/deep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church/#comment-8234 I really appreciate this post. In the past (even recent past), I have been towards "Pole A." I don't go to a regular institutional church and I didn't have much hope for those who did. However, I am more and more convinced that it is not an either/or but a both/and. There is room for both. I was really struck by this just over the past couple weeks as I read Diana Butler Bass' <i>Christianity for the Rest of Us</i> (on the Pole B side of things). I was really encouraged to read what God is doing in mainline churches in the US - an area of church I have little experience with. In reading it, I was reminded of Gibbs and Bolger's <i>Emerging Churches</i> (more towards Pole A) and was struck by the man similarities. It just really convinced me that there is room for both. I really appreciate this post. In the past (even recent past), I have been towards “Pole A.” I don’t go to a regular institutional church and I didn’t have much hope for those who did. However, I am more and more convinced that it is not an either/or but a both/and. There is room for both. I was really struck by this just over the past couple weeks as I read Diana Butler Bass’ Christianity for the Rest of Us (on the Pole B side of things). I was really encouraged to read what God is doing in mainline churches in the US – an area of church I have little experience with. In reading it, I was reminded of Gibbs and Bolger’s Emerging Churches (more towards Pole A) and was struck by the man similarities. It just really convinced me that there is room for both.

]]> By: Subversive Influence » Blog Archive » Random Acts of Linkage http://jasonclark.ws/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&seed=http%3A%2F%2Fjasonclark.ws%2F2007%2F01%2F15%2Fdeep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church%2F&seed_title=Deep+Church%3A++Two+poles+and+a+middle+ground+of+the+Emerging%26%23160%3BChurch/comment-page-1/#comment-8227 Subversive Influence » Blog Archive » Random Acts of Linkage Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:12:37 +0000 http://www.jasonclark.ws/2007/01/15/deep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church/#comment-8227 [...] Jason Clark’s post yesterday… Deep Church: Two poles and a middle ground of the Emerging Church — this one puts the USA and the UK tending toward opposite poles… but seeking middle ground. [...] [...] Jason Clark’s post yesterday… Deep Church: Two poles and a middle ground of the Emerging Church — this one puts the USA and the UK tending toward opposite poles… but seeking middle ground. [...]

]]> By: Helen http://jasonclark.ws/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&seed=http%3A%2F%2Fjasonclark.ws%2F2007%2F01%2F15%2Fdeep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church%2F&seed_title=Deep+Church%3A++Two+poles+and+a+middle+ground+of+the+Emerging%26%23160%3BChurch/comment-page-1/#comment-8206 Helen Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:48:33 +0000 http://www.jasonclark.ws/2007/01/15/deep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church/#comment-8206 Thanks Jase :) Thanks Jase :)

]]> By: Jason http://jasonclark.ws/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&seed=http%3A%2F%2Fjasonclark.ws%2F2007%2F01%2F15%2Fdeep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church%2F&seed_title=Deep+Church%3A++Two+poles+and+a+middle+ground+of+the+Emerging%26%23160%3BChurch/comment-page-1/#comment-8199 Jason Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:37:55 +0000 http://www.jasonclark.ws/2007/01/15/deep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church/#comment-8199 Helen (13): You came across as honest and vulnerable, thank you! Just being friends, and tongue in cheek know I feel I know you some more :-) Helen (13): You came across as honest and vulnerable, thank you! Just being friends, and tongue in cheek know I feel I know you some more :-)

]]> By: Helen http://jasonclark.ws/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&seed=http%3A%2F%2Fjasonclark.ws%2F2007%2F01%2F15%2Fdeep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church%2F&seed_title=Deep+Church%3A++Two+poles+and+a+middle+ground+of+the+Emerging%26%23160%3BChurch/comment-page-1/#comment-8194 Helen Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:34:23 +0000 http://www.jasonclark.ws/2007/01/15/deep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church/#comment-8194 Jason, thanks for your response and thanks for the welcome! I'm fine with you worshipping Jesus - I hope I don't come across as objecting to that. I don't feel comfortable saying "I love Jesus" but I'm not sure it would be strictly correct to say I <i>don't</i>, if all ways of loving him are taken into account. Which is confusing and why I generally avoid that subject these days. Jason, thanks for your response and thanks for the welcome! I’m fine with you worshipping Jesus – I hope I don’t come across as objecting to that.

I don’t feel comfortable saying “I love Jesus” but I’m not sure it would be strictly correct to say I don’t, if all ways of loving him are taken into account. Which is confusing and why I generally avoid that subject these days.

]]> By: Jason http://jasonclark.ws/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&seed=http%3A%2F%2Fjasonclark.ws%2F2007%2F01%2F15%2Fdeep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church%2F&seed_title=Deep+Church%3A++Two+poles+and+a+middle+ground+of+the+Emerging%26%23160%3BChurch/comment-page-1/#comment-8188 Jason Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:15:46 +0000 http://www.jasonclark.ws/2007/01/15/deep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church/#comment-8188 Rick (7): Great analysis and observation, thanks. Rick (7): Great analysis and observation, thanks.

]]> By: Jason http://jasonclark.ws/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&seed=http%3A%2F%2Fjasonclark.ws%2F2007%2F01%2F15%2Fdeep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church%2F&seed_title=Deep+Church%3A++Two+poles+and+a+middle+ground+of+the+Emerging%26%23160%3BChurch/comment-page-1/#comment-8187 Jason Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:14:48 +0000 http://www.jasonclark.ws/2007/01/15/deep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church/#comment-8187 Bryan (6): Your comment made me think some more, I don't think there is a middle ground, i.e a place to stand of land, it's more that we live in tension between the two poles, almost an unrealised ecclessiological tension. Bryan (6): Your comment made me think some more, I don’t think there is a middle ground, i.e a place to stand of land, it’s more that we live in tension between the two poles, almost an unrealised ecclessiological tension.

]]> By: Jason http://jasonclark.ws/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&seed=http%3A%2F%2Fjasonclark.ws%2F2007%2F01%2F15%2Fdeep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church%2F&seed_title=Deep+Church%3A++Two+poles+and+a+middle+ground+of+the+Emerging%26%23160%3BChurch/comment-page-1/#comment-8186 Jason Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:13:32 +0000 http://www.jasonclark.ws/2007/01/15/deep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church/#comment-8186 Steve (3&4): Thanks for sharing your personal story, and experiences. Helen (5): Hi Helen, thanks again for being honest. some us still love confessing Jesus, and want to worship him :-) Your welcome any time ;-) Steve (3&4): Thanks for sharing your personal story, and experiences.

Helen (5): Hi Helen, thanks again for being honest. some us still love confessing Jesus, and want to worship him :-) Your welcome any time ;-)

]]> By: Jason http://jasonclark.ws/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&seed=http%3A%2F%2Fjasonclark.ws%2F2007%2F01%2F15%2Fdeep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church%2F&seed_title=Deep+Church%3A++Two+poles+and+a+middle+ground+of+the+Emerging%26%23160%3BChurch/comment-page-1/#comment-8185 Jason Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:08:41 +0000 http://www.jasonclark.ws/2007/01/15/deep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church/#comment-8185 GMD (2): Hi Gary, your comment makes me wonder if we oscillate between poles, and need to be intension between them? Maybe that gives us energy for real change/mission etc. GMD (2): Hi Gary, your comment makes me wonder if we oscillate between poles, and need to be intension between them? Maybe that gives us energy for real change/mission etc.

]]> By: Jason http://jasonclark.ws/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&feed=Articles+%28RSS2%29&seed=http%3A%2F%2Fjasonclark.ws%2F2007%2F01%2F15%2Fdeep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church%2F&seed_title=Deep+Church%3A++Two+poles+and+a+middle+ground+of+the+Emerging%26%23160%3BChurch/comment-page-1/#comment-8184 Jason Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:07:17 +0000 http://www.jasonclark.ws/2007/01/15/deep-church-two-poles-and-middle-ground-of-the-emerging-church/#comment-8184 Paul (1): I'm sure if it wasn't for dissatisfaction, there would be no change! Yet so often it leads to a pathological reaction, rather than real construction. Thanks for sharing your journey in this process here Paul. Paul (1): I’m sure if it wasn’t for dissatisfaction, there would be no change! Yet so often it leads to a pathological reaction, rather than real construction. Thanks for sharing your journey in this process here Paul.

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