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	<title>Comments on: Halloween &#8211; a festival that consumer culture has subverted from Christianity: are we subverting it back? (with apologies to&#160;pagans?)</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Chuckk (26), I like yourdesire for engagement and your commitment to love...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chuckk (26), I like yourdesire for engagement and your commitment to love&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chuckk gerwig</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuckk gerwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the one day in the year when neighbors in my area visit one another for a moment or two - what an opportunity for relational development with those neighbors Jesus calls me to know and LOVE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the one day in the year when neighbors in my area visit one another for a moment or two &#8211; what an opportunity for relational development with those neighbors Jesus calls me to know and LOVE.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, DH (24) now that is funny :)

It&#039;s an interesting thought DH, especially with how much of communication is meant to be non-verbal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, DH (24) now that is funny :)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting thought DH, especially with how much of communication is meant to be non-verbal?</p>
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		<title>By: dh</title>
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		<dc:creator>dh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry for being &quot;touchy-feely&quot; in my response to the title. I don&#039;t know why I didn&#039;t recognize the humor. After you guys pointed it out I had a really good laugh, ha ha ha. :) I do agree with apologize for causing pain but we also should help people not to take it as pain when it is truth. I think we can lovingly say the Truth and still accept the person so as not to be a misunderstanding. I think we can help people to have &quot;soft hearts&quot; and relay Truth at the same time. IMHO Molly and Paul I see your points and agree. For me it is all attitude behind what is said than it is what is said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry for being &#8220;touchy-feely&#8221; in my response to the title. I don&#8217;t know why I didn&#8217;t recognize the humor. After you guys pointed it out I had a really good laugh, ha ha ha. :) I do agree with apologize for causing pain but we also should help people not to take it as pain when it is truth. I think we can lovingly say the Truth and still accept the person so as not to be a misunderstanding. I think we can help people to have &#8220;soft hearts&#8221; and relay Truth at the same time. IMHO Molly and Paul I see your points and agree. For me it is all attitude behind what is said than it is what is said.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Molly (20) - It was mostly in fun but also I think we need to be aware as christians that want my sound like subversion to us sounds like some form of christian colonialism - that wasn&#039;t the intention of the post but if I am serious about engaging in dialogue then as you say I should be prepared to extend an apology, even where it&#039;s a case of misunderstanding.  

I&#039;d rather climb down to build up than talk down...

But that&#039;s jus me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Molly (20) &#8211; It was mostly in fun but also I think we need to be aware as christians that want my sound like subversion to us sounds like some form of christian colonialism &#8211; that wasn&#8217;t the intention of the post but if I am serious about engaging in dialogue then as you say I should be prepared to extend an apology, even where it&#8217;s a case of misunderstanding.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather climb down to build up than talk down&#8230;</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s jus me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DH (18) you said it bro...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DH (18) you said it bro&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simone (17) I think you are right, this is something we have to make a call based on our communities and convictions, it would be real fake if you tried to do something that you did not believe/engage with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simone (17) I think you are right, this is something we have to make a call based on our communities and convictions, it would be real fake if you tried to do something that you did not believe/engage with.</p>
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		<title>By: molly</title>
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		<dc:creator>molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dh, At the risk of sounding way more touchy-feeling than I actually am...
I think we should apologize when we hurt people.  Even if we&#039;re not sorry for what we said (if we think it is right/true), we can still express sorrow that it caused them pain.  

That said, I think the addition on the title was meant partly in good-natured fun.  (Are we allowed to have that? lol)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dh, At the risk of sounding way more touchy-feeling than I actually am&#8230;<br />
I think we should apologize when we hurt people.  Even if we&#8217;re not sorry for what we said (if we think it is right/true), we can still express sorrow that it caused them pain.  </p>
<p>That said, I think the addition on the title was meant partly in good-natured fun.  (Are we allowed to have that? lol)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dh</title>
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		<dc:creator>dh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simone, right on. I totally agree with what you said. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simone, right on. I totally agree with what you said. :)</p>
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		<title>By: dh</title>
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		<dc:creator>dh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, should we apologize to pagans? Should we apologize to people who worship false gods? I personally don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, should we apologize to pagans? Should we apologize to people who worship false gods? I personally don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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